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On citizen journalism and this blog

Chill out indeed:

Do you make any effort whatsoever to gather facts before you make statements, or do you just type whatever pops into your head? Because the leaders of the opponents to the rezone, people like Bonnie Jacobs, Bob Jacobs, Thad Curtz, Barbara Gooding, etc., were certainly not participants in the Port protests. There’s very little overlap between resistance to the “rezone for sale” of the isthmus, and Oly PMR. It just astonishes me that you would write something so ridiculous, that has no basis in fact. So much for citizen journalism.

Good point that none of the actual leaders of the “don’t wall” groups where down at the protests, but dude, chill.

Its still my opinion that we’re riding a wave of emotion in Olympia, pitting the people who supported the protests, to those who didn’t.

And, this blog isn’t for any sort of citizen journalism stuff, I never claimed that. I do try to do that sort of stuff at Olyblog.

So called “frivolous” lawsuit upheld by State Supreme Court

Hey, R. Scott, frivolous (and here, here) lawsuits don’t get upheld by the State Supreme Court (even partially):

We affirm the Court of Appeals in part and reverse in part. We hold a party may challenge a county’s failures to revise aspects of a comprehensive plan that are directly affected by new or recently amended GMA provisions if a petition is filed within 60 days after publication of the county’s seven year update. We hold a party may challenge a county’s failure to revise its UGA designations following a 10 year update only if there is a different OFM population projection for the county. We reverse the Court of Appeals’ holding that a county must identify and justify the use of a land market supply factor in its comprehensive plan. We remand the case to the Board to determine whether a land market supply factor was used and whether, Thurston County v. W. Wash. Growth Mgmt. Hearings Bd., No. 80115-1 based on local circumstances, the County’s UGA designations were clearly erroneous. We reverse the Court of Appeals’ ruling that densities greater than one dwelling unit per five acres cannot be considered in determining whether a comprehensive plan provides for a variety of rural densities. We remand the case to the Board to consider whether the various densities identified by the County in the rural element and/or the use of innovative zoning techniques are sufficient to achieve a variety of rural densities.

So, the summarize:

The State Supreme Court mostly upheld the decision which seems to be the crux of the Tim Ford vs. Robin Hunt Appeals Court race (Hunt was on the appeals court that originally made the decision considered by the court).

R. Scott’s dumb argument, no matter how or how many times its copied, its still dumb.

The State Supreme Court’s email notification tool is freaking awesome.

Interesting Reading at Washington Independents blog

Not really sure what to make of this blog, other than its written by three pseudonyms and sometimes comes out with something interesting. Recently two posts on Gregoire, one on the race in general and another focusing on GMAP.

I was hoping to write two separate posts responding, but I couldn’t quite get my hands around the two pieces to respond, especially the GMAP one. I’m thinking there is more there for Motel Martin to say, but he just couldn’t get it out.

Anyway, good reading there lately.

Rhenda sez chill out folks

Rhenda Strub, a new city councilmember here in Olympia, writes a pretty good piece on the ithmus issue here in town. Not on what she believes we should do, but on how we all need to take a deep breath:

The hyperbole is objectionable enough, but the anger coming from the people who want to talk about this issue is really astonishing. People who have lived here for much longer than me (6 years) tell me they’ve never seen anything like it.

To tell you the truth, I haven’t seen anything like it either. Even the old convention center debate wasn’t this divisive. What I think happened is that the social and political groups that formed around the port protest issue have continued and this is their new target. And, of course, there is a reaction to that energy and it keeps on bouncing around.

Also, good to see Rhenda blogging.

R. Scott trying to change the past (it seems) to cover-up blog/LTE plagarism thing

Things have been moving, people have been doing things since I noticed a letter to the editor which looked exactly like a blog post I had just read.

First looks like blog author, our own R. Scott, has been changing things to make everything look ok.

The post in question now carries a notice “Source: anonymous email submission,” but I’m 100 percent sure that wasn’t there the first time I read the post last week or yesterday when I noticed the similarity with the letter.

And, why would someone submit a piece anonymously to a blog and then to the Olympian as well? Newspapers don’t take anything on an anonymous basis.

And, R. Scott has changed the original post and since there are ways on the internet to see if you’ve changed something, check it out:

Click image for larger version.

This is a picture of my feed reader, Google Reader, Saturday morning. What it shows is the post in question, its original date July 25, 2008 and when it was last edited (12 hours ago on Friday night).

So, R. Scott changed his post, most likely to add the note of the anonymous submitter after all of this started Friday morning.

It is still pretty likely that the letter was plagiarized. But, if it wasn’t then R. Scott plagiarized the original anonymous version by taking credit for it.

Either way, the fun does not end there. Late on Friday night, R. Scott also published a press release on his blog, which he also quickly took down. Here’s a link to where it was and another screen shot:

Again, click the image for larger version.



Also, here’s the entire press release.

Read this document on Scribd: 080725 romero pressrelease

So why send a press release pointing out that Sandra Romero is a board member of Futurewise? This isn’t a mystery to anyone, especially since its actually listed at her own website. And, that Futurewise sued the county for not doing its job… do you think that anyone who has been paying attention didn’t know that already?

Also, since the Olympian reported on the cost of the lawsuit back in April, what’s the point of sending a press release pointing out an already reported fact?

What’s more likely is that R. Scott wanted to point to his “anonymous email submission” in public.

There’s nothing definite there so I can’t say for certain that any of my suspicions are true, but the things that happened in the last few days do nothing to allay them.

The letter was likely copied from the blog. Either the letter writer didn’t think anyone would notice or she just didn’t care.

Anti-Romero letter copied from a blog

Letter to the editor in the Olympian this morning:

Romero has cost taxpayers dearly

Sandra Romero is a board member of a powerful special-interest group called Futurewise. Her group filed a growth management appeal in 2005 challenging Thurston County’s comprehensive plan and cost the county an estimated $1.5 million defending against this frivolous claim.

The county commissioners have a duty to administer the state laws and provide for public safety, heath and roads. The commission doesn’t need to be sidetracked by having to deal with lawsuits generated by special-interest groups.

In Romero’s own words, “(The) budget is the biggest problem right now, it is the driver of all of our woes … with almost a $4.5 million shortfall it’s going to be very difficult to get out of it.”

Romero’s special-interest group is responsible for over 25 percent of the current budget crisis, and I’m not willing to send her in to try and fix it. This would be like sending the fox to the hen house.

Please join me in voting for any one of the other three candidates.

Cathy Franzmann, Lacey

Thurston Pundits (written by R. Scott) 10 days ago:

Sandra Romero is a board member of a powerful special-interest group called ‘Futurewise’. Her group filed a growth management appeal in 2005 challenging Thurston County’s comprehensive plan and cost the County an estimated 1.5 million dollars defending against this frivolous claim.

The County Commissioners have a duty to administrate the State laws and provide for public safety, heath and roads. The Commission doesn’t need to be sidetracked by having to deal with lawsuits generated by special-interest groups.

In Romero’s own words, “[the] budget is the biggest problem right now, it is the driver of all of our woes … with almost a 4.5 million dollar shortfall it’s going to be very difficult to get out of it.”

Romero’s special-interest group is responsible for over 25% of the current budget crisis, and I’m not willing to send her in to try and fix it. This would be like sending the fox to the hen house. Please join me in voting for any one of the other three candidates.

Wow. Nothing more I can really say about that.

New PDC web site REALLY kicks ass

I was about to write the exact same post that Aneurin just wrote, so I’ll just link to it and add two comments.

Makes you wonder why the PDC stuck around with their first generation site for so long when this one is so much cooler. Its almost like they missed a step in between.

The effectiveness of reporting laws are only as good as the tools the government uses to push information to the public. If the data is locked in a filing cabinet, or in a bad online database, we might as well not be reporting.

TVW and their video voter guide

The first big test for the embed tool over at TVW will hopefully be the video voters guide.

By the way, have you notice since right before the new tool went online, Mark has been really quiet?

Via email:

For immediate release – July 7, 2008

For more info: TVW President Greg Lane, 360-725-3999

Video Voters’ Guide begins today on TVW

Olympia – TVW and the Washington Secretary of State are offering the public a chance to watch direct, unedited statements from candidates for statewide office via the 2008 Video Voters’ Guide.

Beginning today and continuing through the Nov. 4 election – with separate primary and general election editions – TVW will televise the Video Voters’ Guide regularly on statewide cable television.

“The Video Voters’ Guide is a valuable public service and is one more way for the electorate to stay informed in this important election year,” said Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed. “We hope voters will follow their state and local races with the same interest and excitement they’re showing for this year’s presidential race.”

TVW and the Secretary of State have teamed up to offer the Video Voters’ Guide every two years since 1996. The guide features candidates for statewide offices: Governor, Lieutenant Governor, Secretary of State, State Treasurer, State Auditor, Attorney General, Commissioner of Public Lands, Superintendent of Public Instruction, Insurance Commissioner, and Supreme Court Justice.

“Voters will hear many sound bites this election year, but it’s also important they get the whole picture,” said TVW President Greg Lane. “Beginning with the Video Voters’ Guide, our election coverage will give people the chance to watch the candidates talk to them directly, straight and unedited.”

The guide also will be available on the Web at tvw.org. Link to the Video Voters’ Guide Web page here: http://www.tvw.org/Elections/VideoVotersGuide.cfm?bhcp=1

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Note to media: TV, print, radio and news blog Web sites are encouraged to embed the 2008 Video Voters’ Guide on their sites using TVW’s new embedding tool, detailed below.

TVW, often called the Washington state version of C-SPAN, provides unedited gavel-to-gavel television coverage of the State Legislature, Supreme Court, executive branch, state boards and commissions, elections, and public policy events of statewide significance. TVW’s 2008 election coverage includes party conventions, candidate debates and forums, newspaper editorial board interviews, and a LIVE election night program. For the first time this fall TVW’s “Election Tuesdays” will highlight the network’s top weekly election coverage starting at 7 p.m., along with civics education programs featuring high school students and teachers.

Cable TV carries TVW for free, reaching 99% of the cable households in Washington, representing about 55% of the state population. Viewers can watch TVW programs on demand at tvw.org, which includes the largest archive of legislative streaming media in the world.

We’re pleased to announce TVW has added a new embedding tool to all programming found on its Web site tvw.org.

This new tool allows any event from TVW’s archives to be embedded into Web sites and blogs, and includes the ability to highlight a portion of the footage, but in a way that honors the balanced, unedited, gavel-to-gavel nature of TVW programming.

The new embedding tool is readily accessible just below the player window of every TVW video and audio event available at tvw.org.

Our goal is to be the most effective resource as possible for citizens to view the Legislature, state government and state public policy debate. We look forward to your comments, questions and suggestions, as well as working with you to improve our services.

Sincerely, Greg Lane, President

What is “embedding”?
Embedding is the ability to place a video or other object in HTML code in order to display it on a Web page. TVW will now allow you to “embed” a TVW video or audio event on another Web site or blog while TVW’s servers securely stream that content to your Web visitors.

Embedding instructions
Embedding TVW video on your Web site is simple and very similar to YouTube’s embed function. With a little knowledge of HTML you can quickly get TVW’s video playing on your Web Site or blog.
To embed an event from tvw.org:

* Click in the text field under the video player area or click “Embed”. This will select all of the code needed to copy into your site or blog’s HTML editor.
* Use the “Right mouse click” and chose “Copy.” This will copy the text to your computer’s clipboard.
* “Paste” this code into your Web site’s HTML code or your blog’s HTML editor.

(For specific hosted blog spheres and how to embed video code, please consult the appropriate help section of your blog site or contact your Webmaster.)

Advanced embedding options

TVW’s advanced virtual-clip feature is unique to the Web. This feature allows you to choose a “Start” and “Stop” time, essentially creating a virtual clip of a TVW event. This, however, does not edit the actual event – it allows a user to continue playing from the point the clip ends and review the event in its entirety right from your Web page or blog.

To use the advanced features, click the “Use Advanced Embed” button and set the start and stop times. These times must be in a HH:MM:SS format. You can also set the width dimensions of the video. The dimensions feature can only be set in conjunction with using the virtual-clip feature. To simply embed the video without a virtual-clip, click the “reset” or “Use Standard Embed” buttons. This will clear any advanced embed features. For further questions about TVW’s embedding feature, contact support@tvw.org.

Lakewood is lucky to have Neary

Good lord.

I’m pretty sure that it wasn’t that Walter Neary was typing and blogging that first ticked off the public commenters at a Lakewood City Council meeting last month, it was that he disagreed with them at the time that the city could do anything at all about the Clover Park School District. The city and school district being seperate governments and all.

But, they complained that he was blogging when he should have been paying attention to what they were saying so they got pissed.

Most telling for me is that on his original post there are only two comments.

Look Lakewood, you’re lucky to have a city-councilman that takes this so seriously that he blogs about it. First, learn some basic civics. Second, blog back at Neary.

That he was blogging what you were talking about tells me that he was actually taking you very seriously, he found what you were saying interesting and that he thought other people should hear about it.

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