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TVW does the right thing and Mark Gardner is wrong

Mark Gardner is wrong, TVW is not fighting a battle with bloggers, Democratic, amen, or otherwise.

Mark Gardner is so freaking wrong
because no campaign will suffer, because TVW is doing the right thing and developing a tool that will help citizens and bloggers get easy access to the great stuff TVW produces.

There won’t be political pressure coming from the TVW board, to the Burner campaign and onto David Goldstein because TVW is smart and they would rather help people use their content than fight a battle with them.

TVW vs bloggers (specifically Goldy) continues

Well, this is good news:

TVW would like its coverage to be distributed as widely as possible, but they don’t want it to appear like they are responsible for editing or excerpting their raw footage. We bloggers, on the other hand, can’t very well illustrate our commentary by inserting a link with an instruction to, say, scroll to the 52 minute mark.

To accommodate both our needs, TVW is working on a technical solution: a flash player that we can embed into our posts—like YouTube—but with a contiguous time sequence as an optional parameter. We get an easier way to select and present pertinent excerpts, and TVW assures the integrity of their coverage by serving it themselves.

Except, that TVW already had made it possible for bloggers to embed TVW content, but then took it away.

Yes, the “contiguous time sequence as an optional parameter” would be interesting, but its hardly an excuse not to make already existing flash files hosted on the TVW servers embeddable.

That said, I’ll be happy when they get this done. It will make their products much more useful.

Olymatt’s Tumwater AFC stadium

Matt over at if on a rainy night:

Every time I drive up Capital Boulevard (which is funny since it’s actually south and I equate going up with going north) and by the old brewery I see the land in between where the railroad tracks head toward the river and over to the Valley Athletic Club I think that it would be a perfect spot for a soccer stadium. How cool would it be to take the bus on a Saturday afternoon over here, donning a jersey and joining several thousand other Olympia fans as we cheer on our local team to promotion. I am not asking for much, just something along the lines of Fratton Park in Portsmouth or Fulham’s Craven Cottage.

I have the same sort of thoughts Matt does.

So, in that vein, I give you Deschutes Park (version one and two), home of Tumwater AFC.

This is upper-division Tumwater AFC’s home from the north. In this reality, Tumwater AFC plays in this world’s American version of League 1, always playing for promotion to the MLS where they can play the Seattle Sounders.

This is lower division Tumwater AFC’s stadium from the south. They probably play somewhere in this reality’s North American version of the Northern Premier League. Semi-pro, but still good.

When did TVW stop considering social media?

David Goldstein gets an email from TVW, stating they’re trying to enforce their social media unfriendly copyright.

Which totally reminds me of something.

Before she left TVW, I had a fascinating email exchange with their former president Cindy Cindy Zehnder, talking about social media. I encouraged the network to think more broadly in terms of their copyright and how people could use their material.

Right now, if you aren’t bona fide media (whatever the hell that means) you can’t touch their material aside from just linking to it. That doesn’t mean that people don’t (I do it every once in awhile), but I’m wondering when they stopped thinking about it.

Last fall, as part of the TVW board’s process to write their 5-year strategic, they brought together a group of media folks in early September to talk about this very issue. I emailed the organizer of the focus group to see what happened during the discussion.

Zehnder left right after that meeting to become the governor’s chief of staff, so I’m assuming the 5-year strategic plan process hit a road bump.

The new president, Greg Lane, only came on board in late April, so here’s hoping they start thinking hard about this. And, that the Goldstein incident is only a bump along the road. TVW is too valuable a resource for citizens to keep it locked up.

Here’s the funny part, Lane has already made a point of saying he wants to change the focus of TVW to engagement:

“The second part of the mission is to really engage the public, to get them to participate in the process. And that’s where we want to shift the focus,” he said.

Engagement isn’t sitting back in your chair passively taking in (through t.v. or internet) what TVW has to offer.

Engagement is taking what TVW has and remixing it, editing it, for discussion and commentary. Exactly what Goldstein did.

Also on TVW:
How to embed TVW content onto your blog
Small victory of the day, flash embed of TVW content
Terry Thompson doesn’t know blogs
Dog as Partner Episode

re: Rural elitists

Reacting to a quote from a rural resident saying they define their area by there being “less government” and “more family,” Jon goes (just have to quote the whole thing):

Until, you know, there’s a natural disaster or other calamity. Then they come running for a government handout, leaving the kids home alone to keep the varmints out of the double-wide, unless their blood is so full of Curs Lite they can’t see to drive.

But usually the prospect of pork rinds will get them to focus just long enough to make it to the Wal-Mart, where they wander around the aisles in their NASCAR shirts, looking for 8-track tapes while their children run around the entire place screaming. The kids can’t find what they are looking for either because school funding got slashed again and they seem to have a wee bit of trouble um, reading.

The road to Amboy is maintained by magical forest sprites, who patrol it and keep the pure and noble woodsman safe from highwaymen, trolls, ogres and bandits. No need for pesky road crews and deputies there! Like Daniel Boone, all the resident of Amboy needs is a Kentucky long rifle and some pemmican.

Now, that is a rant.

I too, like Jon, get tired sometimes of the rural self definition of them some how being rugged individualists while us city-folk cower at the site of (oh, I don’t know) anything rurualish.

That said, there really is less government in the hinterland, because of the simple fact there are fewer people. This doesn’t mean that rural people somehow have more control over their own lives (which I assume is implied), but that where there are fewer people, there are fewer government services.

The police roll by my house more often than in rural areas simply because I have more neighbors in one block than a rural resident does in ten miles.

I live closer to a library (a much larger library) and I can walk to the store (most of the way) without feeling like a truck is going to come over the next rise and send me jumping into a ditch.

Depending more on your family doesn’t make it any more safer to go walking down a rural road at dusk. Having sidewalks does.

The kind of government that I have more of in Olympia is not the kind of government that people from the corner of two country roads are afraid of. Rather, its the kind that makes me want to live in an urban area. But, we each have our tastes, so there is no accounting for that.

But, if I lived out in the sticks, I’d like a bit more government, thank you.

Andrew on: His thoughts on the Top Two

If there was any question at all about how Andrew from Redmond feels about the Top Two primary, that’s all cleared up. The guy hates it.

And how.

Ok, so he writes a very long post about how the Top Two is very bad, so I’m just going to wade into this and see where I end up. It looks like we’ll just go rant for rant.

One of the problems with how the Top Two is rolling out is that the parties are asking local organizations to hold nominating conventions. I’ve said, and others as well, that these conventions are a tool to be used later when the parties move to have the Supreme Court reconsider their decision.

Andrew is much kinder to the state Dems intentions, saying rather they are “gamely fighting to ensure that there will be somebody carrying the party’s banner.” Oh, I’d say they’re creating an official record for the court that the Top Two hurts their freedom of association.

Later on, Andrew writes this:

Meanwhile, the 36th Legislative District has refused to even hold a nominating convention. The two Democrats running there are John Burbank and Reuven Carlyle. Its leaders, who aren’t giving their district’s precinct committee officers much credit, argue that having only PCOs pick the nominee isn’t democratic.

I enjoyed reading that local party leaders thought giving a decision over to PCOs would be undemocratic. Which, it really would be. If the 36th LD holds to the average of King County, their PCOs really weren’t elected in a Democratic fashion. Last time I checked, less than a third of the possible PCOs positions across the county were elected and less than 2 percent of all the positions available were contested. The rest of the PCOs now serving in the 36th and across King County are appointed.

I wish it weren’t this way, but handing a decision over to PCOs to decide is necessarily undemocratic because of the lack of participation in PCO elections.

There is a central question that I run into when I talk about this issue with folks who aren’t involved in party politics. They wonder why the state of Washington should pay for what party activists argue is a private party function.

Andrew:

The choice belongs to the people of our party. It’s too expensive to hold special caucuses in every jurisdiction every year. And they don’t attract the numbers that a presidential caucus does. That is why we really need the open primary.

The choice belongs to the people of the party, but we can’t pay for it. We need the state to pay for our private party function.

Well, I’ll agree, we don’t have enough money to pay for precinct caucuses every time we want to nominate someone. We also don’t have the volunteers. We do have enough money (collectively) to run campaigns, put televisions ads up and pay consultants.

What we don’t have the structure, resources or people to actually get people involved in our organization. We may sound grassroots, but we’re not. Very few people actually participated in our caucuses as compared to voter turnout in other elections, and we barely had the capacity for that.

I can see why people don’t like the open primary, or any system that gives too much control to parties in Washington. They don’t trust us because they aren’t part of us.

Works in Progress not cluetrain

Explaining why they late a lame story hit the press:

WIP doesn’t publish material to its website throughout the month — although sometimes we do correct mistakes that went out in the print issue. Typically, the website reflects what we run in print that month. Other people may have an interest in making WIP more of an online publication, but personally, I think it would probably turn into a situation where the staff spent all their free time fending off attacks from the SondraK’s of the world. Not my cup of tea.

That people disagree with other people is… well obvious.

Also obvious is that just putting up stories more than once a month to reflect what is in the print edition, doesn’t mean you have to accept comments. You just have to post every time you have something new.

But, even if you did accept comments, you could have a standard of behavior to keep away the trolls. In the end, the people that disagreed with you would just be the ones that did it nicely.

Would that be ok?

I’m just thinking that its good to break down walls and have conversations. Maybe the folks that read WIP need to talk to the folks over at SonkraK. Both are just about as close as you can get to the chorus singing to the chorus in Olympia, and that doesn’t exactly encourage critical thinking.

Yeah! Ken Balsley’s on the internet!

Sweet.

Ken is awesome, and not because I agree with him. Actually, he’s about as opposite as I get. But, in addition to his KGY commentaries (which I never hear anymore because I’m never in the car when they’re on), he’s doing a blog.

Great stuff like this:

To really understand the answer to that question we have to go back to World War II and the Olympia Airport. During WW2 army military pilots used to train at the Olympia Airport and flew scouting missions out over the Pacific looking for Japanese sumarines and planes.

Across the street from the Olympia Airport sat the Airport Inn, a typical Northwest tavern. It was here that pilots, when off duty, would hang out and it was at the Airport Inn where local boys also found time to lift a beer or two.

One evening the two groups met, exchanged words (no one is certain over what but is was suggested a girl was involved) and a fight broke out. Nearly two dozen people were involved.

After investigating the incident, the military commander at Ft. Lewis put Thurston County off-limits. And it remained off limits for decades.

Soliders arriving at Ft. Lewis were told to look in Pierce County for housing and to stay away from Thurston County. And they did. For all of the 1950’s and most of the 1960’s it was rare, extremely rare, to see military uniforms anywhere in Thurston County.

And stupid stuff like this:

Why do we need to allow “Tent Cities” in Lacey anyway? There seem to be plenty of churches and organizations in Tumwater and Olympia which want to provide this service. I don’t think it’s necessary that Lacey join the fray. It also seems to me that the recent Lacey City Council’s 4-3 vote on requiring churches to keep homeless populations inside was just an excuse for banning homeless encampments. A good one, if you ask me.

(Answer: because freedom of religion is for everyone, everywhere).

But, he’s blogging, so: Freakin’ Yeah!

Orting News in the Seattle Times

Jerry Large:

The Orting News had attracted more than 14,000 subscribers by its third week. Subscribers get an e-mail of its headlines, which reminds them to look at the site and the ads it carries. Subscribers don’t pay, but advertisers do.

The biggest story so far was an attempted abduction. Two strangers offered a fourth-grader candy to get into their car, but she didn’t do it.

Without the News, Carr says, the local school would have had no way to get word to the community quickly.

The problem with Large’s analysis of the Orting News is that it “isn’t journalism” and that a similar model, built on trust between neighbors, wouldn’t work in a big city setting.

Isn’t journalism? Apparently, only a group of poorly paid professionals can do journalism. If citizens try to ask the same questions that journalists would ask, they aren’t journalists, but journalers. Large should worry less about professionalism and more about being earnest. Unpros can do journalism, its just harder to conceive that they would.

Also, a set-up like the Orting News would very much work in a big city setting, it would need to be boiled down to a neighborhood level. And, the email back type accountability at the Orting News would actually help build the small town type connections that the Orting News is thriving on.

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