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Randrom free PR advice to some folks who want to build a building downtown

An email I sent to a buddy awhile back that I’d meant to post here. Enjoy or not.

A little free PR advice to some folks in the development world:

In my mind the battle to build the convention center downtown was lost in August 2003 when Public Funds for Public Purposes canvassed Olympia City Council members’ neighborhoods and asked the residents what they thought of the convention center. All of the neighborhoods had a large majority against the project, with Doug Mah’s I remember being up around 90 percent.

PFPP did a lot with this information, including standing up against the wall during a city council candidate debate, holding signs saying “Doug: 90 percent of your neighbors don’t want the convention center.”

This is an important lesson for the Larida Pasage debate because it illustrates what happens when you lose control of the narrative. The council and the city bumbled around with the details of the convention center, and let opponents build a case against it as the details came to light.

We’re also getting very close to the point (maybe within days) of this happening with Larida Passage. I know its a small example, but its a bad sign that I can’t drive to the Safeway without seeing half-a-dozen signs saying “Don’t Wall of the Waterfront” or “Save our Views.” There should at least be competing signage saying “Save Downtown.”

In this case, its more of downtown residents talking about what they see as the negatives of the project. Keep in mind, downtowners’ negatives aren’t necessarily the negatives that would be seen from someone outside downtown. If the project suddenly appeared tomorrow, most Olympia residents wouldn’t see it as a big deal. Most downtowners would be apoplectic.

So, define the positives of the project from the perspective of someone living in S. Capitol, off of Cain Rd. or near Garfield School.

For example: How are walkers around Capitol Lake going see the project? The size of the buildings, from someone walking the north side of the lake or the south sidewalk of 5th would be a turn-off. To these people you need to talk about the ground floor retail and the general sprucing up of the blocks.

By and large, lake walkers are not downtowners. They come down to the lake and walk because it is a downtown feature they enjoy. You could take this same exercise and carry it with any group of people that use downtown, but do not live there. Another example would be folks who attend Lake Fair.

So, its not necessary to fight back against every negative downtowner argument (traffic, views in general, the “feel” of downtown), but rather build parallel and positive argument the project to the sections of the community that will actually decide whether this goes forward.

Strictly countering downtowner arguments will in the end give them more credence and leave the out-of-downtowners no other vision of the project then what the downtowners define it as.

I think beautiful views are killing Puget Sound [Wall off the waterfront]

Puget Sound is dying because it is too beautiful. The central issue with Puget Sound isn’t actually finding a way to fix what’s wrong. We know what’s wrong and how to fix it, its convincing people that there’s even a problem.

Most folks look at Puget Sound and see beauty, so how could there be a problem?

This is directly tied to my recent thoughts on building higher than average buildings close to the water in downtown Oly.

We have to stop thinking of the beauty of this place as an ecological function. Puget Sound can be both beautiful and dying at the same time. Why are we so worried about building bigger buildings (that would actually decrease stormwater run-off because they’d be built to modern standards) on already urban lots?

Not building them where urban growth already is would push growth further out, in rural and undeveloped areas.

So, we don’t build them because the view of Puget Sound is pretty? I think we should build them especially if they block the view so we can remind ourselves that Olympia is already big piece of concrete, and that concrete on dirt is not pretty.

New book: Rogues Buffoons and Statesmen (best history of Olympia)

Rogues, Buffoons and Statesmen:

Truly, the best book about Olympia and maybe Washington politics through the 1970s. Its a shame that no one has taken up the task of updating this book (or writing a sequel).

Generally speaking, the books tells the story of Olympia from main street and the Capitol. Gordon was an old time newspaper guy in Olympia, so he had great background for both Olympia scenes. He also lived early enough in Olympia’s history that the really old stuff really wasn’t that old to him. It is oft-referred to, but seldom seen. There are only six copies in the Timberland system, a few of which don’t circulate.

So, the best thing I can say about getting this book now is that I bought it so cheaply. I have seen this book for sale for $150 before, and I got it online (from Tacoma Goodwill) for $9!

Yeah! Ken Balsley’s on the internet!

Sweet.

Ken is awesome, and not because I agree with him. Actually, he’s about as opposite as I get. But, in addition to his KGY commentaries (which I never hear anymore because I’m never in the car when they’re on), he’s doing a blog.

Great stuff like this:

To really understand the answer to that question we have to go back to World War II and the Olympia Airport. During WW2 army military pilots used to train at the Olympia Airport and flew scouting missions out over the Pacific looking for Japanese sumarines and planes.

Across the street from the Olympia Airport sat the Airport Inn, a typical Northwest tavern. It was here that pilots, when off duty, would hang out and it was at the Airport Inn where local boys also found time to lift a beer or two.

One evening the two groups met, exchanged words (no one is certain over what but is was suggested a girl was involved) and a fight broke out. Nearly two dozen people were involved.

After investigating the incident, the military commander at Ft. Lewis put Thurston County off-limits. And it remained off limits for decades.

Soliders arriving at Ft. Lewis were told to look in Pierce County for housing and to stay away from Thurston County. And they did. For all of the 1950’s and most of the 1960’s it was rare, extremely rare, to see military uniforms anywhere in Thurston County.

And stupid stuff like this:

Why do we need to allow “Tent Cities” in Lacey anyway? There seem to be plenty of churches and organizations in Tumwater and Olympia which want to provide this service. I don’t think it’s necessary that Lacey join the fray. It also seems to me that the recent Lacey City Council’s 4-3 vote on requiring churches to keep homeless populations inside was just an excuse for banning homeless encampments. A good one, if you ask me.

(Answer: because freedom of religion is for everyone, everywhere).

But, he’s blogging, so: Freakin’ Yeah!

What’s with the quote marks comrade?

I was going to post this on Olyblog, but Sarah beat me to it.

Skelly over at the local public defender blog points to the apparent disrespect in the anarchist-activist-rock-thrower community to public defenders:

danny might be able to get a ‘public defender’, but there will still be major costs associated with the trial…

If he qualifies for the p.d., what major costs would those be? And what’s with the quotation marks, ‘comrades’?

Well, as ramblini points out over at OB, Anarchists and Socialists (statists) don’t really like each other. I guess as public defenders are an extension of the state, an anarchist wouldn’t really like them.

Recreating a birds eye view of Olympia


I have a reproduction of the above in my living room and a friend and I were talking about the possibility of recreating the same view in today Olympia. Our conversation centered around driving around the Eastside finding the view.

Well, at mass this morning I realized I probably didn’t need to do that. To Google Maps and Earth.

Basically, I drew a line down the center of the above image and pegged a couple of placemarks in Google Maps. Then, drew a line between them reaching up to the Eastside and exported that line into Google Earth.

Viola. There seem to be a handful of spots where someone could recreate the shot on the Eastside.

Oly-er than though

That, I am. Slog links to me here and comments ensue.

Maybe my point wasn’t really that clear, but it isn’t about people saying “Oly” or “Olympia,” but rather the term “Oly” eventually meaning “Washington state government.”

The first comment:

I am from Oly and people like you this person are why I left.

This is where I started to think I was Oly-er than though.

At least one got the language thing:

Metonymy is not going away because you say so. Crown for royalty? Washington for the federal gov’t? You’ve got a big crusade on your hands.

Also, someone who thinks about the language thing way to hard:

See, all I’m thinking about is if he’s used the concept of “metonymy” correctly. “Oly” is an abbreviation, and it’s stretching it a bit to consider an abbreviation to be a piece of something that represents the whole. Or is what he’s saying that “Olympia,” which is connected strictly to the the state government, represents only a piece of “Oly,” which is the complete place, so “Olympia” is the metonymy? Hm.

Also, I wonder if he gets mad about people using “Washington” to refer to “Washington, DC,” which in turns refers to the federal government in Washington, DC. I’ll be looking for his next post on that pressing matter.

Overall good talk.

The thing that really makes me sad is that after calling my first post “awesome,” Josh Feit is still saying Oly. All for naught, but at least I’m still smug about it.

Candidate public financing in Olympia

Just some quick thoughts on the possibility.

SB 5278 was passed by the Senate. I’ll just go ahead and assume the bill will be signed by the governor.

You need 15 percent of registered voters to send an initiative to the polls in Olympia. Close as I can figure that’s about 1,900 people.

No limit on petition size in this case, so we can do 8.5 x 11.

The next step, I guess, is to look up ballot language. The old ordinance in Seattle might work, I guess. Oh, that was quick. Here it is.

Anyone have any experience writing city code?

New Header for a new year

I’ve been toying with this one for a few days, but yes you’ll notice there is a new header at Olympia Time today.

And yes, that is the capitol building in the background, someone added it as a 3d building on Google Earth. And, yes, I added a bridge and took out the 5th Avenue Dam, so that body of water behind the bridge is an estuary.

Just in case you were wondering.

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