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Talking about community, in the Donkey sense

I’m not supporting Tom Vilsack, but he’s got a good point:

What Republicans have done in my view is that they are systematically dismantling a sense of community in America. There are two great institutions in my view in the American experience: one is the self made, hardworking individual who does well and dreams big dreams and accomplishes them. But that person is always surrounded by a strong community, and what Republicans have done with their policies is they’ve sort of ignored the whole sense of community in America. There was no ask last night for us to sacrifice. There was no call to us for a common purpose. There was no effort to try and unite this country towards a big goal, an inspiring goal. So I think it’s important for Democrats win election because I think Democrats can do that and I think they can build a new America, they can restore faith in the American dream.

Wifi in Everett, why not Oly (Tumwater, and Lacey)?

Everett, our former mill-town brother to the north (aren’t all Puget Sound cities above a certain age “former mill towns?) is thinking about wifi. Specifically about this company.

Everett Herald:

City Councilman Drew Nielsen, who sparked a discussion of the possibility at the council’s annual retreat early this month, said the city could decide whether to pursue municipal Wi-Fi, or wireless fidelity, within 30 days.

“This would tell people something they may not realize: that Everett is very technologically capable,” Nielsen said.

By year’s end, everyone with a wireless-enabled computer in the city could have access to high-speed Internet service – completely free.

Everett residents who currently pay anywhere from $10 for dial-up Internet service to $50 or more for broadband service could use MetroFi’s Wi-Fi service for free. Those who frequent local hot spots, or wireless access points, as an alternative to residential Internet service could surf the Web at home.

Knowing what he knows about what MetroFi could do for Everett, Nieslen believes that if the city acted quickly, it could be part of a new wave in technology.

I’ll be interested in keeping up with the discussion up there because setting up a wifi network would be similar in Everett as it would be to in Olympia/Lacey/Tumwater. If you compare the total landspace and population of OLT (116 square km, 86,000 folks) and Everett (126 and 91,000) they’re pretty similar. If it could happen in Everett, it can happen here.

Plus, we have the benefit of being the state capital. What kind of company wouldn’t want to wifi the state capital?

UPDATE: When I first read the article above, I got this 1999 internet bubble sort of feeling about MetroFi, the company that Everett wanted to bring to town. But, looks like I might be wrong. They just dropped their for cost version and are going totally “free” because they’re making enough money from ads.

Thinking about libraries and schools

Two things are coming together for me, but I’m not so sure how far I would want to go with it. But, first, look at this map:


The numbers 1, 2 and 5 are the current locations of the Timberland Libraries in northern Thurston County. The other numbers include several schools in all three districts (Olympia, North Thurston and Tumwater), including Capital (#3), Timberline (#9), and River Ridge (#7) high schools and a few elementary schools (including McKenney [#4] down in my neighborhood).

I’ve been reading about libraries and schools a lot lately. Mostly about how libraries can become “centers of civic life.” I’ve also gone over some interesting stuff about how schools can serve the same role simply by staying open longer and becoming informal “Third Places.”

Anway, the Timberland system in the last few years has opened several “Cooperative Library Centers,” which are public libraries in school buildings. Combining the public space of a school with public library services builds on the mission of both organizations of public education. It also creates a more vibrant civic space in a building, that in many rural communities, is already the center of the community.

In Timberland’s more urban communities, especially Olympia, we’ve had trouble building new facilities. The last library bond, for a new downtown Olympia library, was voted down back in the mid-90s. But, the Olympia school district has a very good track record of passing levies.

Why not team library service with school buildings? Expand the current space for library services (even if its limited to one Westside Olympia school), expand community involvement in schools, and expand civic space.

Catholics not understood well by the religious right

I wasn’t going to write about this earlier today, because it didn’t surprise me that of the “Top 50 Most Influential Christians in America,” only two were Catholics and only one was a Catholic actually living in the United States (which is what I assume America is to the publishers of The Church Report. Rome not being in the United States).

Coming in at #44 is, of course, his holiness, Pope Bennie. I’ll let them slide on the entire Rome not in the US, because, being the religious leader of 25 percent of Americans, he is pretty influential. The archbishop of DC, Cardinal Theodore McCarrcik comes in at #47, right below Rick Santorum, and some guy who runs church Growth Today.

It doesn’t surprise me that only two Catholics made the list, but it still pisses me off. Instead of rambling out ten odd years of frustration, I’ll just say that I guess if you don’t have some really good t.v. and fall right in line with their Southern based political view of the world, you just don’t count.

I said earlier that I wasn’t going to write about this, not until I read my SoJo mail today:

Are Catholics and Evangelicals cut from the same cloth?

In the church of my childhood – a staunch evangelical church in central Illinois, just a few hours drive from Wheaton – Catholics were not considered to be Christians. I was taught in Sunday School that Catholics did not read the Bible and elevated Mary the mother of Jesus into a fourth place in the Trinity. Worse yet, we learned that Catholics did not believe Jesus died once and for all for our sins; he had to repeat the act every time the Catholics took Holy Communion.

My understanding of Catholics changed when I began working in ministry in poor communities first in the United States, and then Latin America. I met Catholics who loved to read the Bible and faithfully explore its message for their lives. On many occasions, I was humbled by their sacrificial quest to follow the path of Jesus.

Of course, over the years I discovered that there are all kinds of Catholics, just as there are all kinds of Protestants. Some Catholics are happy to go through the motions and find shelter in the security of orthodoxy. Other Catholics desire a living, breathing faith that fills them with wonder and purpose.

The article is about a faculty at a Protestant college that was fired after converting to Catholicism. In addition to again refreshing my memory of how my faith is viewed by greater American Christianity, it reminded me how some view anything around here.

Whether or not we can come to a common ground really isn’t important, because some of us aren’t going to let us even get that far. We are different, we think different things and we believe in different Gods, and some of us may not even believe in God. Either way, the lesson seems to be that “it’s not worth talking to anyone that you don’t already agree with,” which is sad.

the president of South Korea has three blogs

We sometimes talk about how cool it is that some county commissioners or congressmen blog (Oh how hip!), but President Roh Moo Hyuan has three blogs, and none of them on his official website. Rather, they are all hosted on (from what I can tell) are commercial, free, blog communities.

Oranckay doesn’t think very much of this:

Some have said one of Roh’s biggest problems is that he’s got his head buried in the internet. You know, instead of just governing without constantly trying to be best buddies with The Netizens all the time. I wonder if he is going to be able to sleep at night without wondering what kind of comments he’s been getting. (He’s been known to leave a few himself here and there.)

It goes on from there is the same direction, that it’s a bit unbecoming for a leader of such a high stature to lower himself. I typically transpose “citizen” when I see the word “blogger” or “netizen” these types of comments come off to me as a bit high falootin’.

Why is Oregon different regarding the primary question?


I would normally want to make this a longer post, and I might later on some other blog, but in case I have any regular readers, maybe someone would want to clear this up for me.

In Washington, despite winning popularly across the entire state, I-872 is almost totally panned by party activists. I’ve only seen myself and Tim Copeland from Blue Washington come out against the lawsuit by our party to overturn the new voting system. Not much debate among progressives, or among the politically engaged at all.

Yet, in Oregon, where the One Ballot Oregon initiative, there is lively debate among progressives. What’s the deal?

Open source county party platform

Cross posted at Betterdonkey.org:

Maybe open-source is an exaggeration, every party platform is usually pretty democratic. But, there is a point to where people don’t get involved or engaged in writing the platform of the party they identify with.

This year, the Thurston County Democratic Party is holding a series of open, public forums ahead of the precinct caucuses to start the conversation about what our platform should say.

Each in-person forum will also have a parallel online forum. While most of the topics have already been lined up, one of the in-person forums will have its topic determined by online comments.

Usually, folks show up to the caucuses and talk, over a few hours, about what the platform should include. Every four years, we also talk about who should be President, but this isn’t one of those years, so all we’re talking about is the platform.

This year, we’re getting a kick start on that conversation.

Each of the five forums (except one) will cover a section of the previous platform (such as healthcare or the economy). So instead showing up on a Saturday morning with a few ideas, we’re going to be talking together over, hopefully, a couple months to publicly brainstorm a platform.

The one open topic forum is in Bucoda, a small community in south Thurston County. Instead of limiting the topic of that forum, we wanted people to feel as welcome as possible to discuss any part of the platform they’d like.

My hope is that folks that wouldn’t ordinarily go to a weekend caucus would come to a public forum offering the opportunity to talk about what we should be fighting for. Or, others might feel more open to do the same thing online. Either way, the ideas generated online and in the forums will be forwarded to each of the caucuses for consideration. They have to be approved there, and then they’ll proceed through the traditional platform process.

Skipped the big day of the blogger conference


I had a good excuse, I went steelheading, but ended up just catching a sucker. Fun looking fish, but I left it back to the river.

Anyway, I did attend the Friday afternoon session (legislative folks, traditional media hacks, bloggers, etc…) and had some reflections.

1. The way that bloggers use the media and vice versa. David Goldstein from Horsesass.org talked about his series of posts on David Irons’ family and their weird history had a real impact on the King County executive race because it changed how the traditional media was covering the race. Just getting the story out on a highly read blog moved the race. If David has written what he did, and it never got past his immediate readership, it wouldn’t have mattered much.

On the flip side, Sandeep Kaushik talked about the Stranger using a blog (Ameriblog) to create buzz for a story that they hoped would go national, Microsofts’ abandoning of HB 1515 because of pressure from Pastor Ken Hutcherson. Prior to the story hitting the news-stands out here, the Stranger sent drafts of the story to Ameriblog and the New York Times. They hoped Ameriblog would “amplify” the story and that the Times would give it a national platform.

According to Sandeep, by the time the NYT started looking into the story (they initially said it was a great story “if it were true”) Ameriblog had created a firestorm that had been raging for ten hours. In king of the same way that Goldstein blazed the trail for the Seattle PI and the rest of the regional media, Ameriblog created a national controversy for the NYT to write about, but it was a so-called Traditional Media outlet that first pushed Ameriblog. Did anyone else feel weird how I referred to the Stranger as traditional?

2. Legislative blogging. The last session included two elected folks and two Dem caucus staffers. One of the points had to do with ethics rules limiting the use of state resources around certain times to prevent electeds from using public resources to campaign. Those rules also the use of state resources to blog. Bummer, maybe we could get the rules changed.

Or, as I and another YD (the great Rob Dolin) reflected before I dashed off rudely, why don’t they use campaign committee resources to blog? Or, as I thought later, they could use free resources available (like the one I’m using right now) and blog on their own time using their own internet access (or publicly available free access).

3. Lynn Allen is a very good writer, and a nice person. Bloggers get credit for political engagement, moving opinion, getting points across, promoting dialogue. Often times we forget we’re also writers, and she is one of the best we have. It was nice meeting here for a short while.

4. What the heck do you mean the entire campus isn’t wireless? The hearing room we were in had a great network, but not the entire campus. It may be for elected folks, but I don’t understand why there isn’t a campus-wide public network. Might move the city to do the same.

Here’s what everyone else that was not dorky like me and went to the Saturday session is saying:
Rick at Olyblog: Blogging conference concludes
Preemptive Karma: Pacific NW bloggers unite at conference
PNI: Conference a huge success
Horse’s Ass: Bloggers of the NW unite

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