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Olympia city council early campaign notes

Hayes out (we hardly knew ya):

it has occurred to me that the time commitment and the potential personal cost to myself and my family is too high.

“Potential personal cost?” Boy, what could that mean?

Sermonti in (who are ya?):

“If we change what Olympia is and what we stand for, we won’t have a downtown, but if we refuse to change at all, we may well not have a downtown either,” he said.

What… da… dog… does that mean? We won’t have a downtown? Wha? Ah man, I’m confused.

How TVW helps citizen media, civic dialogue

Last year when TVW launched its embeddable and time markable media tool, it was mostly because political bloggers griped for it. Its application by bloggers has been slow going (I hardly ever see anyone using it), but this week, something cool happened.

Both sides of the local isthmus debate went up to the Capitol to testify of house bills that would regulate development downslope of the capitol campus. Both groups used the TVW embed tool to highlight their testimony. Here is Friends of the Waterfront and a much more agressive use by Oly2012.

While the local legacy media was only able to give the hearing a short story in the paper, TVW gave local groups the tools they needed to give the issue a much more thorough airing. It took a commenter to even link to the actual TVW footage at all.

Local debates are ripe for this kind of use of media. It would be great to see if TVW would be able to export its custom flash player to local governments so they could offer the same kind of embedable and time customized media tools that the state legislature deliberations enjoy.

Actually, wouldn’t it be great if city’s like Olympia, instead of using an out of state company like Granicus, be able contract with a local non-profit whose sole purpose is to distribute public deliberations? I’m not saying that Granicus does a bad job, but they’re an out of state for profit company when we have an in-state not-for-profit that could, if they decided to, do the same thing only better.

Lisa Hayes wants your comments (bad speller 2)

The city council candidate has a website and what looks like a blog post with comments enabled. Not sure if there is a moderation feature, but I’d say give her some comments.

Also, seriously not trying to pick on Hayes too much for bad spelling, but this just rubbed me wrong: “Looking out my bedroom window I see Capitol Lake, the Sound, the Capital, and on a clear day Mount Rainer.” I can understand not using the correct capitol/capital usage, but when you used it correctly just a few words before, now that is weird. Did you think that Capitol Lake referred to something other than the Capitol?

Lisa Hayes, bad speller

It is Bob Macleod not Bob however you feel like spelling it (from her press release, via here):

Lisa Hayes is supported by a broad group of citizens including Neil McClanahan, Dean Foster, Dylan Carlson, Bob McCleod, Brad Tower, Susan Bogni, Carmen Hoover, Selena Kilmoyer, and many more.

Which, is I know, a little dumb mistake. But, not so small when you see she worked on Macleod’s campaign two years ago. She should know how to spell the name of a former county commissioner, her most prominent supporter (sorry Dylan) and a former client.

The 5 sad things about the Olympia Bulletin

1. He’s paying attention to the right things, but the way he writes about them (not backup to his statements, writing the same post day after day just changing names) makes him look silly. I think the Transportation Benefit District is downright important, especially as it concerns the balance between impact fees and fees to drivers, but he’s making an ass out of the issue with his posts.

2. The blogger “Patrick” is anonymous. If you’re going to say something like what you’re saying, be accountable for it.

3. Your blog is called “Olympia Bulletin.” Do you really need to put a dateline at the front of each of your fake news posts? At best its amateur hour, at worst its like you know better but just don’t care. I mean, could you possibly be talking about councilmember Joe Hyer in Olympia, California?

4. He did a great thing with his blog aggregator, but by skipping over using links in his posts, he ignores the blog conversation around him.

5. Repeating #2. Anonymous blogging, especially when the wheel house of what you’re doing is ripping people down is annoying. I guess I’m ok with it when all you’re doing is attacking George W. Bush or some other distant figure, but when you’re attacking a local person, it makes you no better than “Truther.” Be accountable to your words, come out from behind being anonymous.

I really appreciate local blogging. I really really appreciate it and I’ve praised OB in the past (here and here). I’m just sick of bad, anonymous local blogging too.

Rhenda back at Olyblog

At least for one comment thread, here and here.

She’s doing it right this time, simply restating the facts of the incident as she sees them, not getting wrapped around the axle. And, trying to be funny about the cookie thing.

Also, I think SMASH is joking here. He/she actually wants does want elected officials “coming around here, acting like regular people.”

Show Jeff Kingsbury some love today

UPDATE: More threads here at Olympia Standard, Olyblog and Olyforums. Show your support folks!

Because he needs it.

Today’s going to be hard for Jeff, one of our city council members, not just because he’s dealing with this, but because of all the talk that is going to surround it, a significant portion of that negative.

So, do your part and take part in the conversation in a positive way.

Here’s a message I sent around to friends this morning:

I’m sure most of you have already heard about the vile hate mail that targeted Jeff Kingsbury in the last few days.

Please show your support for Jeff in the discussion going on right now in various places online around town. Here are is the link to comment thread at the Olympian where you can show your support for Jeff

I’ll forward more threads when they pop up if you’re interested.

Just a few thoughts on how to best respond:

There will be negative comments towards Jeff, please do not directly take on this posters or engage in a “flame war.” This is exactly what they want you to do, to rise to the bait.

Instead, make sure you contact the forum administrators or editors so they can take the hateful, hurtful comments down. This is especially true for comment threads on the Olympian, as they have well laid out rules for their threads.

A simple positive message that you support Jeff and that he’s in your thoughts and/or prayers should do. Thanks.

Some context on the Jeff Kingsbury Facebook thing

Jeff Kingsbury updated his status on Facebook during a city council meeting Monday night. It depends on your opinion on whether what he wrote or whether he wrote it at all matters.

I think updating your status, twittering, or blogging from council chambers is ok. I also think Jeff should have written more (not less) about what he was hearing. In this case, providing fewer details upset some people.

Here’s the original Olyblog post.

Here are the multiple threads at Olyforums (here, here and here). You probably need to be a member at Olyforums to read that last one.

Here’s the Olympian story and the comment thread for it at Haloscan.

In regards to how this even started, the Olyblog post was probably put up by someone who isn’t on Jeff’s Facebook friends list anymore. Facebook is assumed to be a somewhat private forum, and they have some very explicit rules to that regard.

From Gelf:

Q: Is it permissible to share content taken from Facebook?

A: No. Facebook released a statement regarding Caldwell’s actions saying, “Facebook users agree in the sites terms of use and policies that they will not reproduce other user profiles without permission from the user in question and Facebook. Permission was not granted in this case, and Facebook has disabled the offending account.” Caldwell broke the site’s Terms of Service when she reproduced a screenshot of Giuliani’s profile on Slate. Facebook is not looking to take legal action, and Caldwell has expressed no regret over her actions, despite being banned from the site. The question isn’t so much whether or not it is permissible to share personal information taken from Facebook, but whether it is ethical.

And:

Q: When is it OK to share information gained from Facebook?

A: When it’s justified. The status of information placed on Facebook is murky because it is neither entirely public nor private. That being said, if the information is particularly newsworthy, like the MySpace page of the Virginia Tech shooter, then it should be shared.

Sometimes, Facebook can reveal an interesting take on a tired story, like when friends of members of the Rutgers women’s basketball team jokingly called the players “nappy headed hos” on their Facebook walls during the high-pitched Imus controversy. However, the political leanings of a presidential candidate’s estranged teenage daughter should not be making the rounds in the respected news media.
I believe the reason for the coverage, and therefore the blame, comes from the source of the story. Slate is one of the foremost respectable internet publications, and holds itself to journalistic standards typical of print magazines and newspapers, not political blogs. Many sites take cues from the way Slate reports on the internet, and their coverage of this nonevent resounded in the mainstream press. This type of material is posted all the time on many political blogs, particularly Wonkette, which posted a follow-up article with pictures of the underage Giuliani drinking at a party. The reason why these articles are generally unreported in the mainstream press is because they come from the world of blogs, which the mainstream press is still not entirely sure how to deal with. Those unconscious quotation marks, in print or in tone, are readily apparent in news from “the blogosphere.” It is inevitable that the two will grow closer together, as blogs like DailyKos and Gawker have become their own miniature media empires, and respectable news sources now regularly feature blogs on their site. One can only hope that this will result in higher-grade reporting from blogs, and not lower standards of news journalism in the mainstream press.

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