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Ideas on how we can improve, “not ditch,” the caucus system

Andrew over at NPI blog writes a post about I guess improving the precinct caucus system, but spends the entire time defending them against folks that like the primary. Good for him, but I would really have liked to hear some ideas on improvement.

Seriously.

Because it’s been a demoralizing few months leading up to the precinct caucuses.

Anyway, I’ll start a list. Feel free to join in when you’re ready.

1. Hold caucuses more often. Why do we only force folks to attend a precinct caucus when we want them to choose a presidential nominee? If all that hooey about getting out of the house, meeting your neighbors and freedom of association was not a big lie, then we should hold caucuses to nominate every Democratic candidate, from governor down to state legislator and county commissioner. Not dog catcher, because we don’t elect dog catchers in this state.

Pros: Like I said, we would actually do what we mean when we defend the caucuses.

Cons: If you thought it was hard to pull off the presidential cycle caucuses, what makes you think we can do this all the time? Then again, fewer people will turn out for non-interesting caucuses.

This stuff costs money too, and the primaries the state pays for.

And, can’t we just have it both ways? Private political organization when it suits our needs and public, primary based party when we don’t have the money?

2. Hold them in separate rooms. One of the major complaints that I keep on running into following the caucuses was that people couldn’t hear what was going on because there were more than one being held in one room.

That was reality because a) we couldn’t book classrooms because of student privacy issues and b) we didn’t expect 10 percent of the voters to show up. More like 6 percent or something.

But, we as Dems should make a list of all the publically available small rooms in the entire state that are ADA accessible, just so people can have quiet civic conversations.

And, that’s it. I don’t have any more ideas.

Comparing other states, Washington Dem caucus turnout not so great

Particle man says:

In fact, the Washington caucuses were the largest caucuses in the nation with more attendence than in any other state. This is what it looks like anyway.

Well, that’s of course true. Raw numbers wise, Washington does have the largest amount of caucus goers. But, because Washington is the largest state to still use the caucus system, I should hope we had the most.

If you look at the number of caucus attendees as a percentage of the voting eligible population (according to here) and Kerry votes in 2004, Washington isn’t so great. Here’s my spreadsheet.

VEP percentage is 5.42% (4th out of 11 caucus states so far) and Kerry vote percentage is 16.55% (4th of 11 again).

Guess which state had the most Democrats attending caucuses as a percentage of their population that voted for Kerry in 2004. New Mexico with a whopping 41 percent!

Record caucus turnout vs. actual turnout

Quarter of a million people turned out for the Democratic caucuses on Saturday. No wonder they were crowded and noisy.

That’s including the 10,000+ that showed up in Thurston County. But like our attendance in Thurston County, if you put it against actual voter turnout, caucus turnout is depressing.

In 2007, there were 3,288,642 registered voters in Washington. If you double the caucus turnout to include Republicans (which I think is generous), you still only get 15 percent turnout. That’s not great.

For only the Democratic primary two years ago, over 600,000 ballots were cast.

Obviously, primaries get better turnout than caucuses, but when we talk about caucus turnout, we should compare it to the participation we usually see and not just throw out raw numbers. 250,000 is better than four years ago, but nowhere near as good as we could be doing.

Plus, from the looks of things, we hardly had the capacity to take care of the 250,000 good people that attended their caucuses.

Day of caucus notes

Stopped by county headquarters to pick up some filled out proxy forms for my site, and a fellow came in to ask some questions about caucuses. Mostly had to do with how long it would take (you can sign in and leave, takes about 20 minutes at least) and how late he can show up (don’t show up later than 1:30 or you’re toast).

This is all information that was available online in a dozen or so locations, but he decided to stop by the county party headquarters to find out. Just reminds me that people like to get information in a myriad of ways.

I’ve been home for two hours sweeping and mopping
, and I’ve gotten two robo calls. This is added to the three I got earlier this week.

I was talking to one of my work mates all week about the caucus. We talked about where he should go, what he should expect and how to get the most out of the process. Late yesterday as I was leaving he tells me that it turns out he can’t go, his roof is leaking and he needs to take care of it.

Leaks happen. Democrats should realize that.

Fuse points the light on our bad attitude about caucuses

One of the arguments for the caucuses back less than a year ago when we were debating which process to use was that people should get out of their houses and caucus. It wasn’t an argument about whether people would, but that it was morally better to engage in person than through a slip of paper.

Sure, I’ll agree with that. Showing up is way better in all regards of democracy. But, most folks (90 percent of voters lets say) still won’t be bothered.

But, of course everyone that voted to have the caucuses will show up, so we tend to have a holier than though attitude about this kind of stuff.

Fuse Washington shows exactly how holier than though. They put together a list of all the reasons someone can’t attend a caucus. Of course they forget about “I have to work,” but they bother to put in my wife’s reason for not going:

I don’t have childcare

Bring the kids with you! Anyone can attend the caucus (although you have to be 18 years old by election day to particpate). Then you can make them write a paper on the democratic process.

My son will be napping throughout the caucus process, so we’re under no circumstances bringing him to a crowded room full of excited Democrats. And, if we did have childcare, who do you think is providing that childcare?

Someone shut out of the caucus.

And I thought our caucuses were bad (closed caucuses in Montana)

Our caucuses that will get a ten percent voter turnout are bad, but not this bad (via Left in the West):

Only party leaders will vote in today’s Republican presidential caucuses in Montana, but many in the rank-and-file apparently didn’t get the word.

“The public thinks there’s a Republican election tomorrow,” Deb Mart, elections supervisor for Cascade County, said Monday. “There’s not.”

Northcentral Montana clerk and recorders were besieged by calls from residents about where and when to cast ballots in today’s Republican caucuses, which are advertised as part of Super Tuesday.

At least we invite the public, yikes.

By the way, I got the total turnout number by assuming about 200,000 turnout to both the Dem and Republican caucuses together and dividing it by the number of registered voters in 2007. Montana Republicans may suck more, but we still suck.

Hey kids (17 year olds), don’t forget to caucus in Washington State on February 9

Just a reminder to all the folks out there googling for the caucuses in Washington State on February 9th, if you are 17 years old now but will be 18 by November 4, you can participate in the Democratic precinct caucuses:

Who can participate in their caucus? All registered voters and those who will be 18 at the time of the presidential election can vote at their caucus. You can register to vote at the caucus location and vote in the caucus. Others who are not registered can participate but can not vote.

Speaking of 17 year olds and the democratic process, there is an interesting bill in the legislature that will allow anyone to vote in a primary election if they’re going to be 18 by the time they next general rolls around.

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