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A party of the caucus, for the caucus and because of the caucus (crap)

Noemie has a very comprehensive post up at Washblog about the upcoming precinct caucuses. She rehashes for a bit the fight last year to try for a primary instead of a caucus, and puts forward some of the arguments for the caucus.

One I find troubling:

Washington State Democratic Party Chair Dwight Pelz has said that the caucus system encourages grassroots democracy and dialogue while the primary favors candidates who spend the most money on TV ads and teaches participants that politics is a solitary process. I agree.

Prior to this, Noemie (full disclosure: I like and admire Noemie) argues that we have to look at the caucuses in the context of our fully screwed up election system. Granted, caucuses are a lot better than much of what goes on.

But, I’d argue that caucuses (while usually a good thing) are being used cynically by the Washington State Democratic Party to:

a) drive down participation, and
b) recruit volunteers for the nine months before the election.

Yes, caucuses are great because they require and encourage active participation. But, the party is using that participation for its own use. And, after the election, the scores of jazzed, encouraged people will be dropped like a wet rag by the party because the job will be done at that point.

If the party was actually all about the participatory democracy, it would hold caucuses for every election. We hold a state primary for every other less sexy election in this state because the party would much rather have the state government pay for its winnowing down election than to have to pay for a caucus no one will show up to.

Here are some old posts from Washblog of mine arguing about caucuses and such:
Republicans were trying to make a point with primary vote
More Caucuses v. Primary
Caucus v. Primary debate keeps attention off the real problem: lack of participation

Here’s my favorite line:

But, the problem with caucuses is that very few people actually do turn out for them. On the other hand, the problem with primaries is that still very few people turn out for them. The Olympian editorial points out that while only two percent turn out for caucuses in a given year (certainly not in 2004), but 42 percent turn out for a primary. Two percent may be extremely small, but 42 percent is all that great either.

Wouldn’t it be great if instead of having to choose between really horrible turn-out and depressing turn-out, we could find a way to get more people participating?

Various Baird notes from over the weekend (mostly focussing on TeacherRefPoet)

Jim did a really good job live-blogging the town hall in Olympia, and here’s his more personal debrief. He struck a thought in me. Solidarity is over-rated. More on that later.

Randy notes the Olympian’s story. Randy should link to more blogs.

TeacherRefPoet takes a strident point of view on the entire debacle and says “My party has lost the moral upper hand.” Its worth pointing out that TeacherRefPoet and I agree a lot over the past few weeks. Actually, his above post is about the best thing I’ve read on Baird and our reaction to him since beginning of this entire thing in late August.

From his post:

Because I disagree with Baird, I’d look closely at anyone running against him from either party. But I am deeply saddened at how hypocritical my party has become. They want me to love their dogma more than I love evidence, analysis, and legitimate debate. But my dedication to cool, reasoned disagreement and careful consideration of issues has me defending Baird here.

I disagree with Baird. I think he’s wrong. That doesn’t mean its o.k. to heckle him.

And, Arthur Ruger up at Washblog has a roundup of Baird’s visit to Raymond.

Neighborhood meetings in Douglas County

When residents butt heads with developers in Douglas County, local government may have a solution. Put everyone at the same table and get to work it out:

The building industry has been notorious for using “Private Property Rights” and
“A man should be able to do what ever he wants with his property” clichés. Usually these “Rights” pertain only to the building industry and they are very reluctant to give the same “Rights” to others. They are also Machiavellian in their development plans preferring to avoid any contact with or sharing of information with other property owners and concerned citizens. Apparently for fear that they may have to forfeit some of their precious private property rights while allowing others to assert theirs.

To now expect the building industry to not only communicate with surrounding property owners but also to even ponder the private property rights of others seem like a big jump. Quite possibly if this “Neighborhood Meeting” plan is put into action developers might find that being candid with surrounding property owners and respecting their private property rights will make things a lot easier on everybody.

One of the reasons for the making official of neighborhood associations in Olympia was this kind of push and pull between the city and developers and current residents. The NAs gives the city a one stop shop for where to send information new developments. A cynical person would say that folks who get involved in NAs would most likely be the ones that complain the most to the city, so keeping them involved in an easy way of disarming them and keeping them engaged in a positive way.

Blogging other places recently

Over at WesternDemocrat wondering why a Dem couldn’t win the West in 2008

Over at Washblog, just a couple of things on the AWB and Luke Esser and pointing folks to a Goldmark post out east.

Olyblog, various things.

Some soccer stuff, one wondering if Vancouver BC will steal the MLS and another at BigSoccer pointing out that the USL is dominating the so-called major league MLS in the Open Cup.

I really should have a couple of posts here this weekend, one long MLS/Soccer/Fan thought and a short addition to the Archie Binns project.

This week in Oly and I’ve been away

I’ve been not really busy lately, but rather not blogging until this weekend, when I’ve posted a bit, just not here. In Olympia, they’ll be talking with the downtown association.

One post over at Washblog about PFDs, one post over at WD about folks back in DC fighting about Montana.

I’ve been reading and thinking a lot about baseball, pushed by a series of Robert Whiting essays over at Japan Times. My thinking right now is that there should be three major leagues: MLB, Pan-Latin and Pan-Asia. Economically speaking, Pan-Latin is unlikely to happen, there just isn’t enough money to pay for it right now.

Pan-Asian, though seems to make a lot of sense economically. Plenty of income, but from what Whiting points out, tons of organizational problems with the premier Japanese league to keep it from happening.

Mark Gardner: new blogger

Noemie writes a measured, yet extremely long, post about here concerns with Darcy Burner. I’ve been much less measured with my concerns over Dwight Pelz.

Mark Gardner sees civil war. But, you know what Mark, this is what blogging is, in a way. Its about writing the things that at one point you kept private and shared only with close associates.

Its not just pining for Dixie Lee Ray (and, yes, here) and screwing up the English language. So, sorry, no civil war here.

And, dude, you know what? Those tags you use under your post should at least attempt to be accurate: 2008 Presidential doesn’t relate to a congressional campaign, sorry.

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