History, politics, people of Oly WA

Month: December 2008 (Page 1 of 3)

re: and then he snapped at the Courthouse

Those guys at the lets-hate-judges blogosphere keep on keeping it on. Now, truther says that maybe if judges get beat up, things will be better:

Taking away their security force is an excellent way to reform the unlawful and out of control family court. Think about it. Would little Paula Casey arrogantly and abusively disparage, extort and lecture some Green Beret who did nothing more than make a poor choice in a mate if she was not protected by guards and have an office behind locked doors and bullet proof glass?

Yes, because a judge being rude to you is totally the right reason to attack them. Maybe if that’s your logic, there’s a reason a judge is disparaging you in the first place?

I don’t know, I’d say that someone who’d physically assault a judge might be in their own right a bad choice of a mate.

Free Media Relations/PR advice to Tacoma Goodwill

Don’t comment spam.

For christsakes, are you serious? No matter how good your cause is, right now you look pretty dumb. Especially since my email is pretty easy to see here, you simply could have sent me the information that way.

I have to give you credit for trying to reach out to local blogs, I’ve seen you over at Olyblog before, but posting random comments on random posts isn’t a good idea.

Instead, try doing your own blogging. Maybe not a blog specifically about Goodwill and the work it does, but the world that Goodwill exists in. Saying that in another way, don’t just blog about the good work you’re doing, write about the good work you see other people and organizations like your own. “Hunging good will in Washington” might be a good name for a blog.

Also, keep up the beat at places like Olyblog and the the Exit133 forums.

And, if you’re in 15 counties, why are you called Tacoma Goodwill?

And, email me next time.

Jeff Dickison writes back

Answering this via email (by the way, I work with Jeff):

1. Thurston County is badly in need of county government reorganization. The question quickly becomes “what is the best way to accomplish this outcome”? While I would love to see a new charter put before the county voters, the current constitutionally provided option has proven unwieldy. The election of freeholders as a precursor to the development of a charter proposal has resulted in a kitchen sink approach to the process with numerous agendas, the inability for consensus, and a patchwork proposal that gives everyone a little to like and a lot to dislike. The result the last time around was a voter rejection by a 2 to 1 margin.

The CTED proposals to the legislature in a paper called, “County Financial Health and Governance Alternatives”, raised the idea of an appointed freeholder process to develop a charter proposal. I think the sideboards and accountability of such an approach would generate a charter with a much better chance of voter approval. This would require at a minimum legislative action and possibly a constitutional amendment by the voters. I think I would prefer to pursue this type of option before trying the elected freeholder process again. So, yes I would like to engage the home rule process, but no, I would not vote initially to pursue the current option before trying to develop some alternatives. This rates as highly important to me. I believe it is critical to reorganize county government.

2. The County website is indicative of the diffuse nature of elected authority in Thurston County which has resulted in a lack of accountability. Yes it is bad and should be changed. The first phase would be the fundamental overhaul of how information is provided to citizens and options, including the website, for interaction on issues of the day. However, at some point the website can only reflect the structure of the government. If county government remains decentralized and unaccountable it would be hard for a website to reflect a broader understanding of how and where to interact. The average citizen should not have to be a student of governmental design and structure in order to figure out how to address their issue of concern.

Also, I think blogging is a useful medium to help demystify the quirks of county policy and decision making. It would be worth exploring. I wouldn’t expect that I personally would adopt the standards of some bloggers with the expectation of daily or even hourly entries.

These answers point out something great about Jeff, he’s one of the most studied people I know in general and probably of the applicants as well. His observations regarding the first question are well taken. It doesn’t serve anyone to have an ill designed charter on the other end of a home rule process.

That said, I don’t agree with his conclusions I don’t think an appointment process for free holders in necessarily going to solve the issue of the “laundry list” charter. You’ll just have a laundry list charter written by appointed freeholders instead of elected ones.

Its better to have a thorough election process for freeholders and lean heavily on their education once they start work. The opposite of Jeff’s suggestion, a citizen jury process, would also be a better alternative in my mind. In the end, I think an appointment process would build-in biases about the role of government from those already inside the government.

Jeff’s observation that the state of the website reflects the state of the county government is very insightful as well.

Jeff’s a smart guy, if he doesn’t get the appointment, it would be interesting to see him run.

Erik Landaas (one of the applicants) filed with the PDC and is running in 2010


I had an inkling while perusing Ken’s latest post on Erik Landaas (the Republican donor asking Democrats for a job) that this guy, no matter what the PCOs and the commissioners decide in the next few weeks, that he was running.

I was right, Landaas has filed with the PDC to run for the soon to be open county commission seat in 2010.

A few thoughts:

1. Assuming Landaas can raise any sort of money to even be competative, he can cut a moderate (you could even say Jon Halvorson-esque) track against whoever ends up at the other end of the application process.

He can say he’s not the candidate of the party organization. Halvorson’s opponent for a county commission seat won the party’s endorsement in a close race. Of course, she ended up taking that endorsement all the way to victory, but Halvorson didn’t make it through the primary.

2. Assuming the Top Two primary is still around in two years, Landaas can still run as a Democrat, and if everything breaks right, he can face off against a fellow Dem in the general.

3. The Republicans can save themselves a lot of grief by getting out of the way. While the local conservatives liked Halvorson a bit (kind blogging here, but not an endorsement, from the current county Republican chair), the Top Two primary still produced one Republican and one Democrat. By not running a Republican and letting Landaas soak up their votes, he can be dangerous for whoever ends up with the seat via application.

Karen Valenzula gets back to me

Second of four applicants for the open commissioner position writes me back:

In mid-December, Jim Cooper sent all us candidates a list of 10 questions, the responses to which I believe he’ll post in a few days, as soon as he’s heard from all of us. Here’s question #10 and my response to it –it tells you how I feel about your first question below:

1. 10. Other than attending necessary Board and committee meetings, what would you do during your first 30 days on the job?

I’d work hard to balance external work –mostly meeting with constituents and listening to their concerns and issues, and meeting with other local government electeds —with internal work –mostly meeting with department heads, fellow County electeds, reviewing the recently adopted budget, etc. I’d like to think that mixed in with all of this, I’d be developing ideas in the back of my mind about where improvements might be implemented and starting conversations with my fellow County Commissioners about these. The most important conversation that I believe needs to be started early in 2009 is the question of home rule: restructuring County government into the more flexible County Council model instead of the current County Commission model. We’re no longer the rural county we once were, and we need a more modern form of self-governance. It’s a community conversation I look forward to with great enthusiasm.

With respect to the County’s web site, I agree it could and should be improved, which shouldn’t be a big deal, but would definitely be a priority for me. Thanks for the compliment on our City of Tumwater web site, though I think it, too, suffers from lack of interactivity capability. I think you have it absolutely right: the County’s site is ANTIQUATED! It also seems that its updating is pretty sporadic, almost like it’s completely forgotten about for months.

I’ve certainly begun to appreciate the value of blogging since becoming involved in this Commissioner appointment process. You and Ken have both done a great service to us all with your sites –THANK you! I recently read that one of the federal agency directors has been blogging about agency issues and controversies for two years or so now, which I thought was intriguing. The great thing about blogging is precisely its interactivity and accessibility, so I like the idea a lot. It would really open things up!

I especially like the part when she doesn’t call me stupid for not remembering one of her answers in the application material I already read.

Its also nice to be complimented for blogging. Thanks Karen.

Other than that, her answers speak for themselves. Unless she comes out as a closet Yankees fan, she’ll end up on my list.

My questions for the applicants (and Russ Lehman’s response)

I emailed a couple of questions to four applicants for the open county commission seat I’m considering right now (Russ Lehman, Karen Valenzula, Jeff Dickison and Walt Jorgenson).

They were about the possibility of home rule and how they feel about the county’s frightfully bad website and about blogging as an elected (or appointed in this case) official.

Russ Lehman got back to me pretty quick:

1) Yes, the home rule process, as I understand it, can yield some important results – not the least of which is an important discussion on issues facing this county in the 21st century. I do believe that serious discussion, at least, ought to occur about a BOCC with “reduced” powers and an administration with “increased” powers – better to enable the citizen’s work to be done efficiently and effectively. The fear of a wide open, no holds barred home rule process should not limit our desire and willingness to have the people of this county talk about, and possibility make the appropriate changes on, the critical issues facing us.

2) The website is not currently the tool/mechanism for nurturing Democracy and engaging and informing our citizens that it must be. Of course I would have that be a priority (a relatively small and simple task in the grand scheme of things) with an individual(s) tasked with bringing the website up to date and user friendly ASAP.

As regards blogging, I have mixed feelings about it. To the extent that it is a technologically current way to correspond with constituents, than great. To the extent that becomes a way around the OPMA by in any way “doing business” outside the public domain than I am not in favor of it.

His response on blogging, especially citing the Open Public Meetings Act is interesting, if not troubling. Some response from other elected officials on why they haven’t pursued blogging includes fear of violating the OPMA. In my short research, its the second most cited response to “what, don’t you think I’m busy enough?”

I’m going to have to start thinking harder and longer about the OMPA and blogging.

Jim Lazar’s list of who gave to who (open county commish seat)

Ken has the scoop on local good guy Jim Lazar’s list of which county commission applicants gave to which candidates since 2000. Some gave to some non-Democrats, which might not look good to the party faithful who will do the whittling down:

Erik Landaas

Kevin J. O’Sullivan $300 6/5/2006

Kevin J. O’Sullivan $50 7/30/2006

Corinne Tobeck

Gary Alexander $100 5/28/2005

Sam S. Reed $50 11/8/2007

Ed Crawford

Norman K Maleng 4/25/2002 $100

Susan Bogni

Sam S. Reed $25 4/2/2008

The folks who get hurt the most by this are Tobeck and Landaas. Tobeck because she’s basically only given to Republicans until this year when she gave $10 to the county party. Landaas because two years ago he gave to the Republican candidate (twice) who ran against Bob Macleod, who Landaas is now seeking to replace.

It takes a certain amount of guts, I have to admit, to give $350 to Republican Kevin O’Sullivan in 2006 and then in 2008, as a Democrat, file to replace the guy that beat O’Sullivan.

Rich Nafiziger, state Democratic senate caucus chief of staff and blog father

To me, there’s a striking resemblance between former Olympia school board member Richard Nafziger’s on-again-off-again blog and the new blog of the state Senate Democrats (mostly penned by majority leader Lisa Brown).

Makes a lot of sense for Nafziger to be Brown’s blog father, but the similar blogging styles almost makes you think that its Brown’s chief of staff that’s doing the blogging. Both write long (almost too long) and really smart discussion posts, rather than short, clippy newsy posts. I would assume that the short clipply post would better serve a legislative caucus blog.

Nafziger’s current personal blog has only two posts up on it, though he’s been blogging for at least three years. But, on the internet, nothing is really gone. I’ve subscribed to his blog since before he quit the school board, so I shared some of his old deleted posts here.

To me, it doesn’t matter at all if Nafziger is really doing the blogging. Good on him, good on the caucus, good on Brown.

The only thing I’d like to see improved is the length of the posts. In my internet reading habit, I’ve never been able to get my head around his posts in time to comment, though I’d like to.

Oh thank God for you Mr. Knight, what would we have done without you?

The Sitting Duck got up and left after five years and some months in Olympia. After having passively read it for most of the five years and closely for the past few months (ever since publisher Knight got into a scuffle in Lewis County), I’m not sad to see the paper and publisher Terrence Knight leave.

Actually I’m kind of happy.

I was never all that impressed by the journalistic effort of the Sitting Duck, and after reading the “see you later (not!), screw you” edition of the paper, I know exactly why.

Knight writes about bee-bopping around Olympia in the Summer of 2002, just more than a year after the bottom fell out of downtown. The Nisqually earthquake disconnected downtown by closing the 4th Avenue bridge, so the downtown Olympia that Knight found was a depressing version of the downtown that I grew up with.

His specific reference to the Spar is especially troubling to me. By the time he made it to the Spar, it was a sad shadow of the restaurant that I grew up with. To me, Mcmenamins buying the Spar was a sigh of relief. The service is worse there now, but I’m still glad it moved on to new ownership.

I could go on for awhile about how I resent being told about the soul of my town from someone who moved here in 2002 and is now leaving, but let me just say this:  Knight is full of himself. I cite the end of his “I’m outa here” column, Knight speaking of himself as the hero in “The Magnificent Seven:”

And so they ride back and shoot up the bad guys and in the process get pretty well shot up themselves. But they’ve empowered the villagers as best they can, and now its up to (the villagers) to protect themselves.

Like many before us, we had fallen in love with the curious character of our moderately famous community, and believing that ideas, truth, and words still make a difference, we’re determined to give it a voice. That’s what we came here to do and we have done our very best. We tried to fight the good fight. The fight isn’t over though — it never is — and our biggest worry is that during the next few years, Olympia will need, more than ever, an alternative and original voice.

Our work here is done. And now it’s time to ride on.

Well, since you did your harm to public discourse in this town, I’m happy to see you leave. We did an ok job before you got here, we’ll survive without your inflated ego.

To Berd Whitlock: Triage sucks but its real

Berd wrote over at the Olympian:

There are some substantial differences between the battle between a Citizen’s Group and the Port of Tacoma over Rocky Prairie; and the battle between Citizens’ Groups and the City of Olympia and Developer Triway Enterprises over the downtown Olympia “isthmus.” But there are a lot of similarities. Similar sets of logic apply to the situation here in Olympia, as compared to the situation in Rocky Prairie. Despite the differences, the best decision in the local Olympia case might very well be to pull the property off the market. City Council has the ability to enact a moratorium ordinance on the currently passed rezone. That would provide time to figure out how to go about creating a truly wonderful and novel park feature – a park feature that would accent the natural beauty that exists in such quantity here in Olympia. Would that be the right move to make? Seems so to me.

The main difference in terms of environmental restoration between the isthmus property and the Rocky Prarie property is that the isthmus property is more expensive and matters less.

Not to say that the isthmus property doesn’t matter at all or that the cost is impossible to get to to buy it and restore it, its just the Rocky Prairie property is current undeveloped, is still ecologically connected to other large pieces of habitat. The isthmus properties, though easier to find on a walk from my house, would be islands of good habitat among bad.

A regrettable, yet real, concept being kicked around in restoration circles is called triage. Basically, with the limited resources we have to put towards species and habitat restoration, we have to choose what to go after first.

Here’s a basic primer on the debate and another and a response to it.

So, if I had $100,000 to spend on saving some land from development, I’d spend it at Rocky Prairie first, then figure out where to go from there.

By the way, God bless you for being out there tonight.

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