History, politics, people of Oly WA

Month: December 2006 (Page 2 of 3)

Irony of that last post

Here is something funny to mull over while you chew on that post below.

The Washington State Democrats (the elected chair and I assume the staff he hired) don’t like the suggestion for a blog or any other cluetrain type stuff.

Wes Beal would be the lead staff on any techie stuff like that, as technical director of the state party.

Here is Wes Beal’s blog. He raises money through ActBlue, something the state party doesn’t do on their own site.

Here is his post about getting the job with the party. Strangely the posts sort of peter out after that. Maybe there is a blogging kibosh I don’t know about up there?

Cluetrain not for Washington Democrats

Willis Reed from a comment at HA yesterday:

You’re still ticked off that there isn’t an offical Wa Dems blog? You’ve had that in your craw since April? Really? Aren’t there bigger things to worry about? Remember, those that don’t blog tend to underestimate their usefulness, those that do blog tend to overestimate their usefulness.

Yes, I still have that in my craw, though it isn’t as simple as an “official state party blog.” Truth be told I could go forever with the state party never having a blog. I’d be as happy as I’d ever be without one, because that sort of band-aid approach to the internet isn’t at all what I’m talking about.

(By the way, I was going to title this post “Cluetards,” but that, I thought, wouldn’t be very nice. Actually would be insulting. But, I do like that word, so I’d thought I’d mention it).

Willis was responding to my linking to this post at Evergreen Politics, which describes an idea Ken Camp had last spring to cluetrain the state party by establishing, among a ton of other things, a state party blog.

In addition to Dwight Pelz’s initial rebuff of the idea, I think that we had an election this year pretty much killed any chance Ken’s ideas would be heard. As Willis would probably say, there were bigger things to worry about.

And, well, right now, there aren’t those big things to worry about for a little bit. So, why not worry about getting the party on the cluetrain again? We have just over one year before our Presidential cycle caucuses bring tons of new people into the fold for at least a few hours, why not be prepared to give them something to hold onto?

This wasn’t something I was going to get over. This is exactly how I got interested in politics as participant, rather than a cynical observer. Some campaign “got it” in a very deep sense, and hooked me.

The Myspace War on Better Donkey

I’ve recently become a front pager at Washblog, so my other front paging duties at the other local political blog I was attached to, Better Donkey, is pretty much over.

In looking back at that site, which is pretty much empty of recent of posts from anyone anyway, I noticed some action at my MySpace for Civics Education idea. That post comes up when folks search “Ban MySpace,” so it has been getting some comments about people engaged in the “Oh, MySpace is causing the demise of civilization… Oh, No its not” debate.

One feels MySpace, above other social networking sites like Friendster, Facebook, or Facebox.

I am with you on Banning My space. I have a 17 year old daughter whom has been on that site for over two years. Everytime she gets on it she gets moody and crabby. People leave horrible messages, when she puts comments on it she gets attacked for her own opinion. Also I believe you are asking for trouble when you belong to that site. Ever watch Dateline???

Crabby teenagers, huh??? Attacked for your opinion online??? Anyway, this comment sort of relates to my original idea, that a MySpace like application could work to teach not only civics, but the practice of civics. If you can’t take people disagreeing with you, then, probably your best bet is to stay out of the conversation.

But, then again, people should be nice, over all.

One teenager and another unnamed commenter seem to get it:

And just because kids talk on the compuer doesn’t mean they talk in person as well. Myspace and the internet just opens up a person and allows them to be more comfortable with their friends. Being in person might make a kid feel awkward, ever think about that?
So basically if you’re going to ban myspace… opt to ban the internet itself as a whole as well because they’re wuite similar… if you’ve ever visited myspace you’d see it’s a smaller version simply better for comunication.

Pointing out the irony of arguing against MySpace on a website:

ok fair enough myspace isn’t the greatest but it’s very hypocritical if you put point on this site, because you are using the web to sate your point just like people on myspace. Myspace is a great way to show yourself to anyone in the world plus many bands that are now headliners at masiive gigs like artic monkeys used myspace to get where they are! so give it a break

See you later BetterDonkey!

My notes from tonight’s reorganization meeting

Here are my notes from the reorganization meeting for the Thurston County Democrats and (surprisingly) the LD 22 Democrats:

Bob McLeod, this is where the political career of Bob McLeod began. Presented the last of his campaign funds to the county party. Anne Hirsh swears in the PCOs.

Usually the chairs and vice chairs of the LD 22 and TCD are the same, since 22 is completely enclosed within Thurston County. This year, though, we elected a separate chair, vice-chair.

Speaking of returning money, Paul Pickett (who won a very close race for PUD)

Agenda is adopted so we’ll handle bylaw stuff next month.

Paul Berendt nominates John Cusick for chair. No other nominations for chair, but Paul still made his nomination speech. Thruston County really is gifted with a fabulous chair in John Cusick. He’s professional, respectful of the grassroots. We’re trying very hard to get people involvd who haven’t been involved before. We want to do a much better job reaching out to the outlying districts. Time is ticking and we’re getting older, and we really need to recruit and train younger people to hold leadership positions in the party.

First Vice Chair. Current first vice chair Debby Pattin nominates Elizabeth Shepard. Elected by acclamation.

2nd Vice Chair. Roger Erskine nominates Jerry Muchmore, who served as campaign services committee chair this last time around. Elected by acclamation.

Secretary. Jeff Holcumb, the current secretary nominates Christine Garst, who was member at large on the executive committee and coordinated the sunshine fund. Elected by acclamation.

Current treasurer Jane Johnson nominates Helen Wheatley, who worked on campaign services. Elected by acclamation.

Debby Pattin nominated for state committeewoman. Elected by acclamation.

Karen Van (Tumwater City Councilmember) nominates Roger Erskin as state committeeman. We really need to make sure the PCOs are connected all the way up to the state committee. We need to be active in those races (in 2007) so we’re building our party up to 2008. Elected by acclamation.

Linda Lombard moved that we approve our $20 dues again for next year. Approved by acclamation.

Approval of the banking institution. Jane Johnson suggests we maintain accounts at the state employees credit union.

Cathy ?? the state committee woman from Mason County (who is running for the 35th) brings up the topic of a possible change in the way the state committee is made up, warning against the possibility of taking away the LD state committee positions. Apparently a move is afoot to by urban state committee people to take positions away from the LDs.

Mike Rechner gets up to thank everyone. I’m not going anywhere, I’m going to be a thorn is someone’s side for the next two years. I’m probably going to go again.

Jeane Marie Christensen, who lost the LD 2 Rep race thanked everyone. The TCD was the single largest contributor to her campaign and she was elected 1st Vice Chair.

22nd LD meeting.

Jim Cooper nominated for LD chair. “He’s young bright and articulate.” Was a veteran, served in the army. Teaching leadership and team dynamics. We make sure the resources are there when people need them, keeping the playing field level for all the LDs in the county. Elected by acclamation.

John Cusick nominates Debby Pattin for 1st Vice chair. Elected by acclamation.

Helen Hunt nominates Russ Olson for secretary/treasurer. Elected by acclamation.

I nominated Hillary Hunt for state committeewoman. Elected by acclamation.

Zach Smith gets nominated for state committeeman. Elected by acclamation. It looks like I’m going to be the senior member of the 22nd LD. We need to get new people involved, we need to get tons of new people involved. This time the West is going to be very important. Elected by acclamation.

Thurston County Democrats reorg is tonight

I’m pretty sure I’m voting for Roger Erskine and Debby Pattin, who are the only two folks that I’ve heard from that they’re actually running for something. I’m assuming that everyone else on the executive board is also running (maybe not Linda Lombard, but then again haven’t heard).

That is the most annoying part of this process, hardly anyone has really said if they’re running. I’ll end up voting for a full slate, but I feel weird about going into a meeting tonight voting for people when we could have been talking about this for weeks.

We have a blog we have a listserv. Why not use them and make this an open process?

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